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For illustration, this is one of the worst trials, number 996 of 1,000.  While none of the answers we got on the questio...
08/22/2026

For illustration, this is one of the worst trials, number 996 of 1,000.

While none of the answers we got on the question were exactly right, they were still good answers. Returns, spending, inflation, natural disasters, health care expenses....all things that can have tremendous impact. But again in this illustration all income, expense, average return, inflation and life expectancies were the same in all cases.

The answer believe it or not is "sequence of returns:". This particular case was built on an average 5.8% return assumption. Most times that's looked at linearly, 5.8% year after year. But of course, that's not how life works.

So the 1,000 illustrations show 1,000 different combinations of return sequences that still all average 5.8%.

In real life, it's sorta easy to see that someone who retired in 2012 or 2017 would have had a very different experience than someone who retired in 2000 or 2007 (just before two market crashes), even with the exact same investments, and particularly if they were aggressive.

If anyone is still reading, Maryann's response of 4% distribution rate was on the right track. The higher your planned distribution rate (income you need/what you have), the more risk you have and the wider variance in all of the illustrations. This makes sense conceptually at the extreme - if a client needs NO income from investments at retirement, sequence of returns doesn't matter because it all averages out over your lifespan.

But if you are taking $40K from your $1M (4%), and the $1M drops to $600K in a year, you are now taking a 6.67% (unsustainable) distribution rate and will be on the path to running out of funds. And once that starts, it's hard to stop unless you change another variable.

We of course help clients with this because we do this every year for them. We also base our planning on conservative assumptions. Higher distribution rates require more conservative (and lower long term return) investments. Older clients who take no income can still be invested very aggressively (higher long term returns) because sequence of returns doesn't matter.

This particular client has choices to make, because 40% is too low to be comfortable. This is where productive conversations happen. Is it really important for them to retire in 2028 or do they want to wait a few years? Or do they want to assume a slightly lower spending level? Or do they want to assume the risk and see what a 7% annual return may look like vs. 5.8%? Or do they want to change some other assumption like saving more? We run these scenarios over Teams with clients every day so that clients feel secure that they have a viable plan in place.

This client is looking to retire.  1,000 trials show a 40% chance of success but look at the range of possible outcomes ...
08/21/2026

This client is looking to retire. 1,000 trials show a 40% chance of success but look at the range of possible outcomes in 1,000 separate simulations. Anywhere from running out of money by about 2040 to having $53M (currently about $2M) by 2075.

Assumptions in all 1,000 trials are exactly the same. Same social security and pension assumption, same expense assumptions, same average return assumptions, same inflation assumptions, same life expectancies.

Can anyone guess what creates the gigantic differences?

Ever since he’s been put (temporarily) in charge things have gotten a little manic.  In fairness paws are overrated and ...
08/13/2026

Ever since he’s been put (temporarily) in charge things have gotten a little manic. In fairness paws are overrated and the buy and sell buttons are right next to each other…

Diane and I are going to a conference for a few days.  It’s not really a learning experience it’s more of a party celebr...
08/11/2026

Diane and I are going to a conference for a few days. It’s not really a learning experience it’s more of a party celebrating top advisors from around the country. This is great because I love crowds and places I can’t hear anything and talking to people I don’t know. It’s a good thing Diane actually DOES like these things 🙂.

Anyway, it’s all good because if the war escalates or AI escapes its sandbox and hacks the grid in the next three days, he’s at my desk and has been trained and ready to hit the button.

Good luck everyone else.

The easy answer is that this is not OK.  This client has no chance of having their funds last to our normal planning age...
08/10/2026

The easy answer is that this is not OK. This client has no chance of having their funds last to our normal planning age of 95 and spending the way they plan to given the nature of their investments, their other sources of income, the assumed inflation rates and other factors. But that's just math.

What you don't know is that their spouse died a few years back, they are a cancer survivor, a lot of the spending they are doing is discretionary and they believe they have absolutely no chance of living to age 95.

They are choosing what they are doing with eyes wide open as to potential consequences.

They are annually gifting to family, they are traveling as they can, they are charitably giving, they are living the life they have left and they are pre-planning their final expenses. Yes, there is risk, but these are their choices to make.

It's not all math and it's not all linear. Our clients are individuals with their own plans and wishes, and our job is to outline choices and potential consequences, then support their plans to the best of our ability. Our job is NOT to tell them what they can and can't do.

Come work with us.

A new client brought an old statement today and at first I glanced at it but then looked closer.  It’s unusual to see a ...
08/07/2026

A new client brought an old statement today and at first I glanced at it but then looked closer. It’s unusual to see a 20+ year history on a statement and what struck me was the small decline between 2007-2012. The Great Recession was the worst market in 75+ years and at the time I’m sure that loss felt terrible. Now, looking back, it’s a barely perceptible decline in an otherwise up and to the right chart. Think long term.

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