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In my last post I briefly talked about turning earnings into valuation using the long term MGS rate. Some of the purist ...
14/09/2021

In my last post I briefly talked about turning earnings into valuation using the long term MGS rate. Some of the purist might question why use a relatively riskless rate when valuing a company? Well, the reaon is simple, to be able to compare across all companies that I investigate.

Buffett once said you can't reduce risk by using a higher discount rate as risk to Buffett is the lack of knowledge about the company you invest in. From this perspective, it is indeed absurd that people think they can reduce risk by using a higher discount rate.

So if you can't reduce risk through discount rate, where else can you do so? By having a Margin of Safety. Suppose you valued a company at 1 billion, if the quoted market value is 900 million, your Margin of Safety is only 10%. Is 10% a good margin of safety? It depends on your knowledge about the company. If you are absolutely confident about how the company's cash flow will be in 10 years time, 10% margin of safety would be more than enough. But if you know superficially about a company, you would need at least a 50% margin of safety.

Margin of safety is an easy concept but difficult to apply as most investor has no benchmark against how much do they know about a company. So, again we come to subjective judgement territory in investment.

From my research on Buffett's investing record, he usually employs a margin of safety of about 30% to 50%. Again, this is a personal choice. Demanding too high a margin of safety, and you can hardly find anything to invest. The converse is true where you can find alot to invest, but you have a much higher chance of loss.

The margin of safety concept also happens to contradict one of the traditional views on investment returns, that is high risk = high return. With margin of safety, you can achieve high return with low risk, provided you have done sufficient research on your invesment.

Above are my thoughts about discount rate when I am reading The Little Book of Valuation by Aswath Damodaran.

Today we look at one of my realized investment that gave me a 93% return in 2.5 years. As this is a realized investment,...
13/09/2021

Today we look at one of my realized investment that gave me a 93% return in 2.5 years. As this is a realized investment, I don't mind sharing the name, which is MYEG(0138).

This is one of my very first stock i bought after dipping my feet in the stock market, which is right at the general election that saw the ruling coalition Barisan Nasional toppled in 2018. During this time, alot of PLC that was perceived to be politically linked are battered, and MYEG is one of the most badly hit, dropping from RM 2.90 to the RM 0.60 range.

The momentous drop in price caught my attention. As Buffett said, business values don't change instantaneously. So I dived deep into the annual report of MYEG to see what kind of company it is. Some people may think catching a falling knife is dangerous and not for the faint of heart, but you have to know what kind of knife are you catching to not get hurt. Steep price drop does not guarantee you will profit from the rebound, but it provides a good place to look for profit opportunities.

So how do i assess an opportunity? It always starts from the 3 financial statements. It is a starting point, not an end, which is the converse of what majority thinks. To me, financial statement gives me the background, only then can I start to aseess the qualititative aspect of a company.

So for MYEG, I first calculate what Buffett defined as the owner earnings. For MYEG 2018, that is(all figures in thousands) 102,778.4, adding in the depreciation and amortization charges 25,421.60, adding interest expense 6,329.60, to arrive at 134,528. Deducting the average CAPEX of 88,888 and you get 45,728. But there is a hiccup in 2018 for MYEG, due to the cancallation of the GST roll out, MYEG had to write off the investment it has made to carry out the GST implementation. This amount to about 170 million at that time. This requires abit of a subjective judgement, which in my view the writeoff amount can be recovered gradually as I hypothesize the government will reinstate GST in the future, so I disregarded the writeoff and put in the 170 million into the earnings and come up to about 215 million.

So how do you relate earnings to the value of a company? I have a very simple idea that I got from Buffett, which is to use the long term MGS rate at that time, which is about 5.5%. So when you capitalize 215 million with 5.5%, you get about 4.3 billion of enterprise value, which essentially is the market value of the company as MYEG doesn't have much debt.

I compared the calculated value and the market value at that time, and I found a big discrepancies. 4.3 billion enterprise value vs around 2.8 billion market value, I smelled opportunity. Remember, when I capitalize the earnings at 5.5%, implicitly I ignored the growth portion of the enterprise value. This is a conservative assumption as MYEG has been growing at about 15-20% CAGR over the past 10 years. Now here comes the juicy part. A company that is constantly growing 15-20% CAGR is selling at a value less than a no growth assumption? I decided to pounce on this opportunity.

My first purchase started at about RM 0.77/share before split, and I kept buying untill my average price is about RM1.07/share. When I am buying, I am a frequent visitor of i3investor, which alot of so called 'sifus' cautioned that don't catch this dropping knife, or the CEO is linked to Najib's wife and there will be no more contract for MYEG in the future, etc. The baloney never stops. But as I have done my homework, these "cautions" never caught on to me, but it does requires alot of courage to be contrarian at that time.

Fast forward 2.5 years later, MYEG came up to the RM 2 range, which is right around what I calculated it's fair price should be, and I sold all at RM 2.08, netting a 93% return from a 2.5 years wait. This is still excluding the dividend that I received these 2.5 years, which could add about 1-2%.

Right now, MYEG is hovering around RM 1.80 to RM 2.00, which I think is a fair price, but not at an investment price. It is ironic that only now do the investment houses starts to praise how good MYEG is, but not during 2018 when it is at the lowest and the most attrative price. I guess Buffett is right when he said, the rear view mirror is always clear.

In conclusion, what I learnt from this investment is that you first had to know your reference price, the reason you are buying the stock, and these must be logically formed. Once you had done the buying, all you had to do is have the patience and courage to wait, but of course you had to monitor the progression of the company to see if it is indeed performing at your expectation.

Alot of people let the stock price tell them how good a company is, but they never invert and look at another way, which is the company performance determines the stock price in the long term

I like to end this long winded murmuring with one of the poems I like best from Rudyard Kipling:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

The Intelligent Investor - Ben GrahamThe all-time important book on investing as quoted by Buffett himself!Thoughts afte...
26/05/2021

The Intelligent Investor - Ben Graham

The all-time important book on investing as quoted by Buffett himself!

Thoughts after reading this seminal work by the dean of Wall Street:

1. Stock is not just a ticker symbol on your screen where you trade with others. The intelligent way is to view it as a proportional claim on the business.

2. The concept of Mr. Market that is manic depressive. He is a poor fella that everyday comes to buy and sell shares of businesses base on his mood. As a shrewd investor, you should be taking advantage of his "mood" to either buy when he feeling depressive and sell when he is euphoric.

Most investors treat stocks as something to be played, to be traded. They look to stock market for guidance, to tell them whether the company is good or not. We think this is an absurd way of thinking.

3. Many shall be restored that now are fallen and many shall fall that now are in honor. - Horace

It is uncanny how this long forgotten quote still rings true in today's market. The stock market is a congregation of thousands of human psychology, and the cycle is an age-old property of any human system. We should all remember this principle.

As one saying: History doesn't repeat but rhymes.

Things to look for in a financial statement of a PLC.Buffett introduced a concept called "Owner's earnings", which is a ...
26/05/2021

Things to look for in a financial statement of a PLC.

Buffett introduced a concept called "Owner's earnings", which is a better representation of a company's free cash flow. It represents earnings that the owner of a company can take out without endagering the business competitive position. So how should one look for this earnings?

In this case, we are looking at a company from a unleveraged basis.

Basically, you need all 3 financial statements of a company, namely:

1. Income statement
2. Statement of financial position
3. Cash flow statement

Owner earnings is the sum of Pretax earnings and depreciation & amortization (D&A), minus the maintenance capex, and adding back interest charges. Once you are done with that, subtract the corresponding tax that the company has to pay and you will get Owner's earnings.

The tricky part is how do you determine maintenance capex? This becomes a subjective matter as each investor has his/her own judgement.

My preferred method is to examine the D&A charges over at least 5 years and compare it to CAPEX(obtained from cash flow statement). If D&A charges approximates CAPEX over the years, then you can safely assume they are identical and the 2 items will cancel out in owner's earnings calculation. But if you detect CAPEX is larger than D&A, then you have to investigate further to check whether the company is cooking their books. If D&A is more than CAPEX, i would just use D&A in the calculation just to be conservative. (Analysing D&A and CAPEX can be a lengthy discussion, which I will defer until later)

Voila, now you know one of the most powerful concept in evaluating earnings of a company!

Value Invest Malaysia is intended to be a documentation/journal of my investment journey and at the same time to serve a...
26/05/2021

Value Invest Malaysia is intended to be a documentation/journal of my investment journey and at the same time to serve as a platform to educate the public to gain a true perspective in the investment game. It is thought that by documenting my thoughts and putting it in words, the author will himself be gaining a better understanding of the concept. I think it is a win-win situation.

A quote from Albert Einstein sums up my thinking on this: "If you can't explain to a 6 year old, you don't understand it yourself".

23/05/2021

It has been a long time between drinks at VIM. I have been scanning BURSA Main Market's individual 778 PLCs to find opportunities for investment. Stay tuned at VIM as I put out some analysis that that determine whether the stock is a good buy or otherwise and why. Along the way I'll also share some nuggets of investing wisdom.
Eat your accounting broccoli as we are about to get serious.👨‍💼

Investment philosophy, the genesis of your investment thinking, is the most important aspect of your investing journey. ...
27/08/2020

Investment philosophy, the genesis of your investment thinking, is the most important aspect of your investing journey. It acts as a center of gravity in your thinking to pull you back when you stray from your original intention. Value Invest Malaysia(VIM) promotes a value philosophy approach to investment. We believe investors benefit most when they think like a business owner, not some manic depressives that follow the fad of the market.

To get a more detail perspective on the value philosophy approach, we recommend of the best investment book written to date, as told by Warren Buffett - The Intelligent Investor, by Benjamin Graham.
Warren Buffett said, there are two fundamental lesson that investors must learn to be successful in the market:

1. Investors should learn how to think about the market
2. Investors should learn to value companies on the market.

The answer to both the above questions can be found in Chapter 8 of The Intelligent Investor.

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The investor should demand (1) a stock can be bought at close to its asset value. (2) A satisfactory ratio of earnings to price. (3) A sufficiently strong financial position, (4). The prospect that its earnings will at least be maintained over the years.

POLICY: Do not pay high multipliers of both earnings and tangible assets. Be willing to forgo brilliant prospects because they are often priced too high.

As long as the earning power of his holdings remains satisfactory, he can give as little attention as he pleases to the vagaries of the stock market. More than that, at times he can use these vagaries to play the master game of buying low and selling high."
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27/08/2020

True Investment is a process, an expression of philosophy. In Value Invest Malaysia, We will be sharing our views on investment philosophy, framework on analysing companies, and how to view the market in terms of human psychology.

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